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Edson Richter

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.


I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.


I'll appreciate your help.


Regards,


Edson Richter




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Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

Edson Richter

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 


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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 




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Edson Richter

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Hi

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.


I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Edson Richter

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

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Dave Page-7
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: [hidden email]
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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

--

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Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

Dave Page-7
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

--

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Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

 

 




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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...
 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Edson Richter

I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors.

Maybe this is somehow related.

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...
 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Edson Richter

See attached image for your reference...

Just to reinforce, this happens only with PgAdmin4.

All other apps run fine (native legacy apps, .Net apps, Java apps).

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

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I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors.

Maybe this is somehow related.

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...
 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: [hidden email]
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Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

See attached image for your reference...

Just to reinforce, this happens only with PgAdmin4.

All other apps run fine (native legacy apps, .Net apps, Java apps).


So I tried with the following:

Windows Server 2008r2 Enterprise on the server
Windows 10 Pro on the client (running on a laptop with a 4K screen)

I found that event Windows Server itself doesn't play nicely with the 4K screen on the client - the Start Menu and other tools display exactly as your screenshots show pgAdmin does until I finally figured out that 200% scaling on the terminal services client largely makes that go away.

Unfortunately, it doesn't make it go away in pgAdmin - nor in Google Chrome which also seems to display fonts on websites with varying degrees of fading and poor quality.

At this point I'm fairly well convinced that this is an issue with Windows 2008r2's lack of support for modern hi-res displays over RDP, possibly coupled with quirks of QtWebKit (for which there have been similar reports of font rendering issues). Given that it works fine in Windows 2012 and later and the fact that none of the rendering code is ours, I'm afraid it's unlikely that this will be fixed.
 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

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Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2
 

I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors.

Maybe this is somehow related.

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...
 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: [hidden email]
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Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48
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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

Edson Richter

Well, I’ve 2 x full hd, not a 4k. So, it is not the same problem we are talking about.

Anyway, as posted before (sent a screenshot), pgAdmin 4 is the only app with problems. It is unfortunate this will not be investigated further, because it is impossible to work on a tool that you can’t read.

 

Thanks for all you effort anyway.

 

Edson Richter

 

 

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

See attached image for your reference...

Just to reinforce, this happens only with PgAdmin4.

All other apps run fine (native legacy apps, .Net apps, Java apps).


So I tried with the following:

Windows Server 2008r2 Enterprise on the server
Windows 10 Pro on the client (running on a laptop with a 4K screen)

I found that event Windows Server itself doesn't play nicely with the 4K screen on the client - the Start Menu and other tools display exactly as your screenshots show pgAdmin does until I finally figured out that 200% scaling on the terminal services client largely makes that go away.

Unfortunately, it doesn't make it go away in pgAdmin - nor in Google Chrome which also seems to display fonts on websites with varying degrees of fading and poor quality.

At this point I'm fairly well convinced that this is an issue with Windows 2008r2's lack of support for modern hi-res displays over RDP, possibly coupled with quirks of QtWebKit (for which there have been similar reports of font rendering issues). Given that it works fine in Windows 2012 and later and the fact that none of the rendering code is ours, I'm afraid it's unlikely that this will be fixed.
 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

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Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2
 

I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors.

Maybe this is somehow related.

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...
 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: [hidden email]
Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 06:59
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Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48
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Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 



 

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Twitter: @pgsnake

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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

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Hi Edson, Hi Dave,

i've also had the same problem from the very beginning of pgAdmin4. The text
looks like in your screenshot
http://www.postgresql-archive.org/attachment/5988298/0/2017-10-16%2014_10_34-pgAdmin%204.png
and this rendered pgAdmin4 unusable for me. And i also experienced the
problems only with pgAdmin4. All the other Applications looked fine. No RDP
was involved - i tested locally on the machine.

System: Windows 7 x64
Resolution: 1920x1080
GPU: Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
Color-Depth: 16 bit
ClearType: off

pgAdmin4:
Version: 2.1
Python Version: 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
Flask Version: 0.12.2
Application Mode: Desktop

After hours of searching the web and trials and errors i finally found a
solution for this problem. In my case the 16 bit color depth was the
problem. Setting the color depth to 32 bit (and restarting pgAdmin4)
resulted the fonts being readable.

@pgAdmin devs: Please make pgAdmin4 always render readable fonts - also in
16 bit color depth. THX.

HTH



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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

Dave Page-7

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM, noAnymous <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Edson, Hi Dave,

i've also had the same problem from the very beginning of pgAdmin4. The text
looks like in your screenshot
http://www.postgresql-archive.org/attachment/5988298/0/2017-10-16%2014_10_34-pgAdmin%204.png
and this rendered pgAdmin4 unusable for me. And i also experienced the
problems only with pgAdmin4. All the other Applications looked fine. No RDP
was involved - i tested locally on the machine.

System: Windows 7 x64
Resolution: 1920x1080
GPU: Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
Color-Depth: 16 bit
ClearType: off

pgAdmin4:
Version: 2.1
Python Version: 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
Flask Version: 0.12.2
Application Mode: Desktop

After hours of searching the web and trials and errors i finally found a
solution for this problem. In my case the 16 bit color depth was the
problem. Setting the color depth to 32 bit (and restarting pgAdmin4)
resulted the fonts being readable.

@pgAdmin devs: Please make pgAdmin4 always render readable fonts - also in
16 bit color depth. THX.

HTH



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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

noAnymous
Hi Dave,


Dave Page-7 wrote
> Please try the test build at
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/~dpage/pivotal/pgadmin4-3.0-dev-x86.exe

did so and the fonts look fine and are readable without eye cancer. ;-)

But:
 - the GUI was not rendered in a separate OS-window (like when the problem
was observed) but within a new browser tab
 - on the first run, all the previuosly configured servers were absent, the
servers node in the tree was empty
- on the second run all the servers were shown and were accessible as
expected






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Dave Page-7


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:12 AM, noAnymous <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave,


Dave Page-7 wrote
> Please try the test build at
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/~dpage/pivotal/pgadmin4-3.0-dev-x86.exe

did so and the fonts look fine and are readable without eye cancer. ;-)

But:
 - the GUI was not rendered in a separate OS-window (like when the problem
was observed) but within a new browser tab

Yes, that's intentional.
 
 - on the first run, all the previuosly configured servers were absent, the
servers node in the tree was empty
- on the second run all the servers were shown and were accessible as
expected

That's weird though. Can you reproduce it still? 

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Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

noAnymous
Hi Dave,


Dave Page-7 wrote
>>  - on the first run, all the previuosly configured servers were absent,
>> the
>> servers node in the tree was empty
>> - on the second run all the servers were shown and were accessible as
>> expected
>
>
> That's weird though. Can you reproduce it still?

No. Unfortunately i cannot reproduce anymore. But i think this is most
probably related to my browser config and no problem of pgAdmin. There are
lots of privacy settings (cookie handling, access rules, etc.) and plugins
(NoScript, uBlock Origin etc.) activated that i had to configure before
pgAdmin worked.

But during trying to reproduce i experienced another error. Several tests
resultet in an error "Application server could not be contacted." At this
time the machine was under heavy load (CPU 100%, IO 120 MB/s writes) from
another application (not pgAdmin). Because of the circumstances loading and
creation of pgAdmin server process might have lasted longer than expected
and something probably ran into a timeout. Nevertheless one out of three
launches finished successfull.

Regards.



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