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EPEL and PowerTools to instructions

Magnus Hagander-2
For a number of packages in the PostgreSQL yum repository, one needs
to enable EPEL to make them work, and sometimes also PowerTools.

This information is currently only available as archived news on the
yum website, AFAICT.

We should somehow work this into the download instructions I think.

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Re: EPEL and PowerTools to instructions

Devrim GÜNDÜZ

Hi,

[Adding Dave]

On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 11:05 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> For a number of packages in the PostgreSQL yum repository, one needs
> to enable EPEL to make them work, and sometimes also PowerTools.

Right, PostGIS needs PowerTools on RHEL 8.

> This information is currently only available as archived news on 
> the yum website, AFAICT.
>
> We should somehow work this into the download instructions I think.

EDB recently did similar work here:

https://repos.enterprisedb.com/

Dave, any chance we can do something like this for the community repo
as well?

Cheers,

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Devrim Gündüz
Open Source Solution Architect, Red Hat Certified Engineer
Twitter: @DevrimGunduz , @DevrimGunduzTR

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Re: EPEL and PowerTools to instructions

Dave Page-7
Hi

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:45 PM Devrim Gündüz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

[Adding Dave]

On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 11:05 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> For a number of packages in the PostgreSQL yum repository, one needs
> to enable EPEL to make them work, and sometimes also PowerTools.

Right, PostGIS needs PowerTools on RHEL 8.

> This information is currently only available as archived news on 
> the yum website, AFAICT.
>
> We should somehow work this into the download instructions I think.

EDB recently did similar work here:

https://repos.enterprisedb.com/

Dave, any chance we can do something like this for the community repo
as well?

It's certainly possible, but it's not a trivial amount of work (and the edb-repos code couldn't really be reused in the community site, even if I got permission to do so). Also bear in mind that repos.enterprisedb.com was written to support products like PEM which have additional post-installation setup requirements, which is probably not the case for most things on yum.postgresql.org.

My suggestion would be to add the EPEL/PowerTools repos as optional steps in what we have now, with a note in the instructions explaining when they might be needed.
 
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Re: EPEL and PowerTools to instructions

Magnus Hagander-2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:12 AM Dave Page <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:45 PM Devrim Gündüz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> [Adding Dave]
>>
>> On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 11:05 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> > For a number of packages in the PostgreSQL yum repository, one needs
>> > to enable EPEL to make them work, and sometimes also PowerTools.
>>
>> Right, PostGIS needs PowerTools on RHEL 8.
>>
>> > This information is currently only available as archived news on
>> > the yum website, AFAICT.
>> >
>> > We should somehow work this into the download instructions I think.
>>
>> EDB recently did similar work here:
>>
>> https://repos.enterprisedb.com/
>>
>> Dave, any chance we can do something like this for the community repo
>> as well?
>
>
> It's certainly possible, but it's not a trivial amount of work (and the edb-repos code couldn't really be reused in the community site, even if I got permission to do so). Also bear in mind that repos.enterprisedb.com was written to support products like PEM which have additional post-installation setup requirements, which is probably not the case for most things on yum.postgresql.org.
>
> My suggestion would be to add the EPEL/PowerTools repos as optional steps in what we have now, with a note in the instructions explaining when they might be needed.

Not having looked at the EDB implementation in detail, but I agree
that having this as a documented optional step should be fine --
that's what I meant originally as well :)

Is there some (easy) way to determine exactly which packages need
which of them, that we could somehow even turn into a list on the site
(could be directly on yum.postgresql.org or on the main website
depending on the size).

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Devrim GÜNDÜZ

Hi,

On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 14:07 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> Is there some (easy) way to determine exactly which packages need
> which of them, that we could somehow even turn into a list on the sit
> (could be directly on yum.postgresql.org or on the main website
> depending on the size)

Only PostGIS needs it IIRC. I'll check as soon as I can.

Cheers,

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Devrim Gündüz
Open Source Solution Architect, Red Hat Certified Engineer
Twitter: @DevrimGunduz , @DevrimGunduzTR

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Magnus Hagander-2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Devrim Gündüz <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 14:07 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > Is there some (easy) way to determine exactly which packages need
> > which of them, that we could somehow even turn into a list on the sit
> > (could be directly on yum.postgresql.org or on the main website
> > depending on the size)
>
> Only PostGIS needs it IIRC. I'll check as soon as I can.

And that's the same for both EPEL and PowerTools?

If we can stick to that then it obviously makes things easier. But
then we also need something in the process to make sure that we update
that list if you end up adding another package that needs it.

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Re: EPEL and PowerTools to instructions

Magnus Hagander-2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:54 PM Magnus Hagander <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Devrim Gündüz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 14:07 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > Is there some (easy) way to determine exactly which packages need
> > > which of them, that we could somehow even turn into a list on the sit
> > > (could be directly on yum.postgresql.org or on the main website
> > > depending on the size)
> >
> > Only PostGIS needs it IIRC. I'll check as soon as I can.
>
> And that's the same for both EPEL and PowerTools?
>
> If we can stick to that then it obviously makes things easier. But
> then we also need something in the process to make sure that we update
> that list if you end up adding another package that needs it.

Ping?

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