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Installation on Cygwin

Daniel Gustafsson
I happened to stumble over the Cygwin section of the installation docs, and was
surprised to see references to not entirely bleeding-edge Windows versions:

    "The adduser command is not supported; use the appropriate user management
    application on Windows NT, 2000, or XP.  Otherwise, skip this step."

Not knowing the first thing about Cygwin I might be out cycling here; it does
sound like it's about due for an update to reflect current versions of Windows,
or is this just relevant for older versions?  Skimming backwards we have, with
various wordings, recommendeed against Cygwin since 8.0, the current wording
going back to 8.4 more or less unchanged.

cheers ./daniel

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Re: Installation on Cygwin

Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 09:40:59PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:

> I happened to stumble over the Cygwin section of the installation docs, and was
> surprised to see references to not entirely bleeding-edge Windows versions:
>
>     "The adduser command is not supported; use the appropriate user management
>     application on Windows NT, 2000, or XP.  Otherwise, skip this step."
>
> Not knowing the first thing about Cygwin I might be out cycling here; it does
> sound like it's about due for an update to reflect current versions of Windows,
> or is this just relevant for older versions?  Skimming backwards we have, with
> various wordings, recommendeed against Cygwin since 8.0, the current wording
> going back to 8.4 more or less unchanged.

I am thinking the list of operating systems should just be removed.

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Re: Installation on Cygwin

Magnus Hagander-2


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:52 PM Bruce Momjian <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 09:40:59PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> I happened to stumble over the Cygwin section of the installation docs, and was
> surprised to see references to not entirely bleeding-edge Windows versions:
>
>     "The adduser command is not supported; use the appropriate user management
>     application on Windows NT, 2000, or XP.  Otherwise, skip this step."
>
> Not knowing the first thing about Cygwin I might be out cycling here; it does
> sound like it's about due for an update to reflect current versions of Windows,
> or is this just relevant for older versions?  Skimming backwards we have, with
> various wordings, recommendeed against Cygwin since 8.0, the current wording
> going back to 8.4 more or less unchanged.

It's cute that it also talks about doing things on "Windows NT".... Any "non-NT" Windows has not existed for *many* years.

 

I am thinking the list of operating systems should just be removed.

Are you referring to the whole section 16.7 in the 12 version (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/installation-platform-notes.html)? 

I can agree with that, and say that maybe that type of content is better maintained on the wiki?

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Re: Installation on Cygwin

Daniel Gustafsson
> On 8 Sep 2020, at 15:44, Magnus Hagander <[hidden email]> wrote
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:52 PM Bruce Momjian <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

> I am thinking the list of operating systems should just be removed.
>
> Are you referring to the whole section 16.7 in the 12 version (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/installation-platform-notes.html <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/installation-platform-notes.html>)?
>
> I can agree with that, and say that maybe that type of content is better maintained on the wiki?

At least for operating systems which are EOL when the major version ships, that
seems like content for the Wiki.  That being said, the phrasing in 16.6 does
indicate that it's quie intentional:

    "Look in Section 16.7 below to see if there is information specific to your
    operating system, particularly if using an older system."

cheers ./daniel