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Looking for information on our elephant

Tatsuo Ishii-4
Hi,

I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
chose elephant as our mascot.

According to:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo

The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
information will be appreciated.
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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Oleg Bartunov-2
Tatsuo,

I have  emails even from 1995 !  You can see that historical message here:
http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.


Author: [hidden email]
Date: 1997-04-03 20:36:33
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
Some other ideas:

derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)

but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...

David Yang
[hidden email]


Oleg


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
chose elephant as our mascot.

According to:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo

The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
information will be appreciated.
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp


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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Tatsuo Ishii-4
Oh great! Thank you Oleg!
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Tatsuo Ishii
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English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

> Tatsuo,
>
> I have  emails even from 1995 !  You can see that historical message here:
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
>
> Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> *Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
> [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
>
> Some other ideas:
>
> derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
> illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
> obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
>
> but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
>
> David [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Oleg
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
>> chose elephant as our mascot.
>>
>> According to:
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>>
>> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
>> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
>> information will be appreciated.
>> --
>> Tatsuo Ishii
>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list ([hidden email])
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>> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Josh berkus
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On 09/19/2013 04:16 PM, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
> chose elephant as our mascot.

What I've been told:

Our first logo was one Jan designed, which was a elephant in a diamond.
 While the idea was nice, it looked terrible, so when Marc and Greg
launched PostreSQL Inc. they hired an actual desinger who created the
blue elephant we have now.  This design was then contributed to the
community.

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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Tatsuo Ishii-4
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Oleg,

Unfortunately the archives seem to miss attached files. I love to see
the attached files because they are logo images.  Any idea?
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

> Tatsuo,
>
> I have  emails even from 1995 !  You can see that historical message here:
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
>
> Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> *Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
> [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
>
> Some other ideas:
>
> derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
> illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
> obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
>
> but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
>
> David [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Oleg
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
>> chose elephant as our mascot.
>>
>> According to:
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>>
>> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
>> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
>> information will be appreciated.
>> --
>> Tatsuo Ishii
>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list ([hidden email])
>> To make changes to your subscription:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
>>


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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Oleg Bartunov-2
I found in my archives several logos. The oldest one comes from postgres95 time.  I recall that logo with cheetah was made by Bruce (?)




On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oleg,

Unfortunately the archives seem to miss attached files. I love to see
the attached files because they are logo images.  Any idea?
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

> Tatsuo,
>
> I have  emails even from 1995 !  You can see that historical message here:
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
>
> Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> *Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
> [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
>
> Some other ideas:
>
> derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
> illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
> obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
>
> but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
>
> David [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Oleg
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
>> chose elephant as our mascot.
>>
>> According to:
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>>
>> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
>> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
>> information will be appreciated.
>> --
>> Tatsuo Ishii
>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list ([hidden email])
>> To make changes to your subscription:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
>>



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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Oleg Bartunov-2
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Tatsuo,

you could ask Marc about archives. Probably he has original mbox files.

Oleg


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oleg,

Unfortunately the archives seem to miss attached files. I love to see
the attached files because they are logo images.  Any idea?
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

> Tatsuo,
>
> I have  emails even from 1995 !  You can see that historical message here:
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
>
> Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> *Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
> [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
>
> Some other ideas:
>
> derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
> illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
> obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
>
> but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
>
> David [hidden email]
>
>
>
> Oleg
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
>> chose elephant as our mascot.
>>
>> According to:
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>>
>> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
>> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
>> information will be appreciated.
>> --
>> Tatsuo Ishii
>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list ([hidden email])
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Re: Looking for information on our elephant

Bruce Momjian
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:40:06AM +0400, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> I found in my archives several logos. The oldest one comes from postgres95
> time.  I recall that logo with cheetah was made by Bruce (?)

No, I don't remember who did that cheetah.

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