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PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Jonathan S. Katz-3
Hi,

Attached is a draft of the release announcement for the PostgreSQL 13
Beta 1 release this week.

The goal of this release announcement is to make people aware of the new
features that are introduced in PostgreSQL 13 and, importantly, get them
to start testing. I have tried to include a broad array of features that
can noticeably impact people's usage of PostgreSQL. Note that the order
of the features in the announcement are not in any particular ranking
(though I do call out VACUUM as being one of the "most anticipated
features"), but are my efforts to try and tell a story about the release.

Please let me know your thoughts, comments, corrections, etc. and also
if there are any glaring omissions[1]. Please let me know your feedback
before the end of Wed. May 20 AOE (i.e. before the release ships).

Thanks for your review!

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/release-13.html

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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Laurenz Albe
On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 22:40 -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
Thanks for the good work!

> The `pg_rewind` command also has improvements in PostgreSQL 13. In addition to
> `pg_rewind` automatically performing crash recovery, you can now configure use
> it to configure standby PostgreSQL instances using the `--write-recovery-conf`
> flag.

"you can now configure use it" could do with one less verb.

Yours,
Laurenz Albe



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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Jonathan S. Katz-3
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Hi,

On 5/18/20 10:40 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Attached is a draft of the release announcement for the PostgreSQL 13
> Beta 1 release this week.
>
> The goal of this release announcement is to make people aware of the new
> features that are introduced in PostgreSQL 13 and, importantly, get them
> to start testing. I have tried to include a broad array of features that
> can noticeably impact people's usage of PostgreSQL. Note that the order
> of the features in the announcement are not in any particular ranking
> (though I do call out VACUUM as being one of the "most anticipated
> features"), but are my efforts to try and tell a story about the release.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts, comments, corrections, etc. and also
> if there are any glaring omissions[1]. Please let me know your feedback
> before the end of Wed. May 20 AOE (i.e. before the release ships).
>
> Thanks for your review!
Ditto above^ :)

Thanks everyone for your responses (a note on that in a sec). I have
attached an update to the release, which will be close to and/or the
final copy that goes out tomorrow.

Based on the feedback received, I accepted & declined changes based on
a) how it impacts our users at large b) if an expression was actually
wrong vs. personal preference of explanation. For (a), there is an
existing note in the announcement to read the release notes as there may
be some features that are more interesting to the reader than what may
be described. As mentioned, the goal is to try to have the release
announcement as a springboard into what people can use/test.

I also received an interesting amount of off-list feedback this
iteration. While I generally do not mind chatting (this week an
unfortunate exception and I apologize if I did not reply back to you), I
do ask as part of the collaborative process to try to keep feedback on
list so as to limit duplication of comments.

Anyway, I am happy to receive and incorporate additional feedback up
until we launch tomorrow ~12 UTC.

Thanks! Happy Beta eve :)

Jonathan

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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Alvaro Herrera-9
Hello, sorry for the timing on this, but here's some feedback.

On 2020-May-20, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:

> PostgreSQL 13 introduces many features and improvements to the world's most
> advanced open source database. The following is just a small sample of new
> features introduced into this latest version of PostgreSQL.

"A small sample" suggests to me that there are other equally important
features that you did not list, in a somewhat random way.  I doubt
that's true; as a user, I would expect you to list the most important
changes.  I would use the phrase "The following are the most visible
improvements" or some such.

> PostgreSQL 13 adds incremental sorting, which accelerates sorting data when
> existing data in a query is already sorted.

I'm not sure this is very accurate.  I would say "incremental sorting,
which can take advantage of partially sorted data". (Could add more to
it, "when only a subset of the result set is needed", but that is
perhaps too many words).

> There are more improvements added to PostgreSQL's partitioning functionality in
> this release, including an increased number of cases where a
> "partitionwise join" (a join between matching partitions) can be used,

I'd say "A join between partitioned tables".  (The new feature precisely
is that the partition strategies don't have to match exactly anymore).

> One of the most anticipated features of PostgreSQL 13 is the ability for the
> `VACUUM` command to process indexes in parallel. This functionality can be
> accessed using the new `PARALLEL` option on the `VACUUM` command (or
> `--parallel` on `vacuumdb`), which allows you to specify the number of parallel
> workers to use for vacuuming indexes. Note that this does not work with the
> `FULL` option.

I feel this "Note" is unnecessary; VACUUM FULL is of fringe use anyway.
The phrase on incremental sorting above is better use of these extra
words, if you have a surplus.
 
> This release includes more ways to monitor actibity within a PostgreSQL
> database: PostgreSQL 13 can now track WAL usage statistics and the progress of
> streaming `pg_basebackup`s, and the progress of an `ANALYZE` command.
> `pg_basebackup` can also generate a manifest that can be used to verify the
> integrity of a backup using a new tool called `pg_verifybackup`.

In this monitoring paragraph I would add that it's possible to limit WAL
reserved by replication slots.  "It is now possible to limit the amount
of WAL space reserved by replication slots."

Thanks!

--
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Alvaro Herrera-9
On 2020-May-20, Alvaro Herrera wrote:

> > PostgreSQL 13 adds incremental sorting, which accelerates sorting data when
> > existing data in a query is already sorted.
>
> I'm not sure this is very accurate.  I would say "incremental sorting,
> which can take advantage of partially sorted data". (Could add more to
> it, "when only a subset of the result set is needed", but that is
> perhaps too many words).

Rereading my suggestion, it's not super helpful either, as it suggests
that it's useful when the data is sorted on disk.  I'm coming up with
"which can take advantage of sorted results from intermediate query
steps to speed up subsequent query steps".

Thanks

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PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Adrian Klaver-4
In reply to this post by Alvaro Herrera-9
On 5/20/20 4:30 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Hello, sorry for the timing on this, but here's some feedback.
>
> On 2020-May-20, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>

>
>> One of the most anticipated features of PostgreSQL 13 is the ability for the
>> `VACUUM` command to process indexes in parallel. This functionality can be
>> accessed using the new `PARALLEL` option on the `VACUUM` command (or
>> `--parallel` on `vacuumdb`), which allows you to specify the number of parallel
>> workers to use for vacuuming indexes. Note that this does not work with the
>> `FULL` option.
>
> I feel this "Note" is unnecessary; VACUUM FULL is of fringe use anyway.

You would hope so, but given the number of times it shows up on
--general I would say the note is important.

> The phrase on incremental sorting above is better use of these extra
> words, if you have a surplus.
>  

> Thanks!
>


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Re: PostgreSQL 13 Beta 1 Release Announcement Draft

Jonathan S. Katz-3
In reply to this post by Alvaro Herrera-9
On 5/20/20 7:30 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:

> Hello, sorry for the timing on this, but here's some feedback.
>
> On 2020-May-20, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>
>> PostgreSQL 13 introduces many features and improvements to the world's most
>> advanced open source database. The following is just a small sample of new
>> features introduced into this latest version of PostgreSQL.
>
> "A small sample" suggests to me that there are other equally important
> features that you did not list, in a somewhat random way.  I doubt
> that's true; as a user, I would expect you to list the most important
> changes.  I would use the phrase "The following are the most visible
> improvements" or some such.
After trying to reword it, I ended up striking the whole section. A
bunch of it was redundant to the above section. The title of the section
can have it stand on its own: "PostgreSQL 13 Highlights"

>> PostgreSQL 13 adds incremental sorting, which accelerates sorting data when
>> existing data in a query is already sorted.
>
> I'm not sure this is very accurate.  I would say "incremental sorting,
> which can take advantage of partially sorted data". (Could add more to
> it, "when only a subset of the result set is needed", but that is
> perhaps too many words).

I made modifications based on your downthread comments.

>> There are more improvements added to PostgreSQL's partitioning functionality in
>> this release, including an increased number of cases where a
>> "partitionwise join" (a join between matching partitions) can be used,
>
> I'd say "A join between partitioned tables".  (The new feature precisely
> is that the partition strategies don't have to match exactly anymore).

Cool, modified.

>> One of the most anticipated features of PostgreSQL 13 is the ability for the
>> `VACUUM` command to process indexes in parallel. This functionality can be
>> accessed using the new `PARALLEL` option on the `VACUUM` command (or
>> `--parallel` on `vacuumdb`), which allows you to specify the number of parallel
>> workers to use for vacuuming indexes. Note that this does not work with the
>> `FULL` option.
>
> I feel this "Note" is unnecessary; VACUUM FULL is of fringe use anyway.
> The phrase on incremental sorting above is better use of these extra
> words, if you have a surplus.
While I'm not running in production as much as I used to, there will
still times I would need to use a VACUUM FULL ;)

>  
>> This release includes more ways to monitor actibity within a PostgreSQL
>> database: PostgreSQL 13 can now track WAL usage statistics and the progress of
>> streaming `pg_basebackup`s, and the progress of an `ANALYZE` command.
>> `pg_basebackup` can also generate a manifest that can be used to verify the
>> integrity of a backup using a new tool called `pg_verifybackup`.
>
> In this monitoring paragraph I would add that it's possible to limit WAL
> reserved by replication slots.  "It is now possible to limit the amount
> of WAL space reserved by replication slots."
That is a good one - I added that mostly word-for-word.

Thanks!

Jonathan

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