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Jonathan S. Katz-3
On 10/5/20 7:14 PM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: Awesome, thanks for compiling!

I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage
from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2]
Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would
create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if
we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website?

It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release.

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit13/
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/


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Valeria Kaplan-2
I think that's a really good idea (compiling and linking to the press page [2]). Will definitely encourage people to spread the news.

Few things that we could discuss are:
  • Whether we will include marketing articles by companies that use these news for self promotion? (my opinion is that we should try and only list pieces that are neutral, at least as much as possible) 
  • What about opinion pieces (user stories etc.)? (I have mixed feelings about this one)
  • Do we also list syndications? (guess not)

If helpful, I searched and found a few pieces in Russian (there wasn't much):
there were a few syndications:
There was also this overview in Russian at the recent #RuPostgres session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSpW6Ero30&feature=emb_title (a Russian speaking YouTube channel dedicated to Postgres news, features, events etc.)
There was this blog post https://yandex.ru/turbo/dataenginer.ru/s/?pcgi=p%3D8121 (First experience with Postgres 13) 

Another small question, 
Who does the translation of the non-English press kit? Do we have native speakers checking it before the official release? (I'd be happy to help with Russian if needed, and I also noticed a few glitches with Hebrew version)


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:20 AM Jonathan S. Katz <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 10/5/20 7:14 PM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After a brief discussion with Jonathan he suggested posting here the
> list of articles about the PostgreSQL 13 release in German.
>
>   * https://www.admin-magazin.de/News/PostgreSQL-13-veroeffentlicht
>   * https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2020/09/25/postgresql-released-v13/
>   * https://www.it-daily.net/shortnews/25558-neues-release-postgresql-13
>   * https://www.robotron.de/unternehmen/aktuelles/blog/postgresql-13-verfuegbar
>   * https://blog.v-gar.de/2020/09/postgresql-13-erschienen/
>   * https://www.heise.de/news/Datenbank-PostgreSQL-13-optimiert-Indizes-und-Aufraeumarbeiten-4912302.html
>   * https://www.credativ.de/blog/postgresql/postgresql-13-erscheint-am-24092020
>   * https://www.linux-magazin.de/news/postgresql-13-mit-mehr-performance/
>   * https://www.edv-nachrichten.de/meldung/dbms_postgresql_13_erschienen
>
> That's what I spotted over the course of the last week.

Awesome, thanks for compiling!

I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage
from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2]
Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would
create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if
we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website?

It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release.

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit13/
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/

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Re: PostgreSQL 13 articles (German)

Jonathan S. Katz-3
On 10/6/20 11:31 AM, Valeria Kaplan wrote:

> I think that's a really good idea (compiling and linking to the press
> page [2]). Will definitely encourage people to spread the news.
>
> Few things that we could discuss are:
>
>   * Whether we will include marketing articles by companies that use
>     these news for self promotion? (my opinion is that we should try and
>     only list pieces that are neutral, at least as much as possible) 
>   * What about opinion pieces (user stories etc.)? (I have mixed
>     feelings about this one)
>   * Do we also list syndications? (guess not)
We likely need some guidelines, yes. I think the idea is to restrict it
to media outlets. I would certainly -1 being articles specifically from
companies or on corporate blogs (even if they are good PostgreSQL 13
articles...a lot of them have been syndicated via Planet anyway).

Likewise, I think we'd want to avoid syndications and try to aim for
original content. Granted, some of the original content may be
copying+pasting from the press release, but the idea is that it comes
from a media outlet.

I think there is likely best effort quality control in it too. I
remember an article in English last year that referred to PostgreSQL as
"traditionally a NoSQL database," which I would say shouldn't make the cut.

> If helpful, I searched and found a few pieces in Russian (there wasn't
> much):
> https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=53774
> there were a few syndications:
> https://www.linux.org.ru/news/opensource/15914558
> https://unixforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=150537
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%A1%D0%A3%D0%91%D0%94_PostgreSQL_13
> There was also this overview in Russian at the recent #RuPostgres
> session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSpW6Ero30&feature=emb_title (a
> Russian speaking YouTube channel dedicated to Postgres news, features,
> events etc.)
> There was this blog post
> https://yandex.ru/turbo/dataenginer.ru/s/?pcgi=p%3D8121 (First
> experience with Postgres 13)
Thanks! So, I would like restrict it to just media outlets, and not
syndications, though it's good to know about the syndications for future
decision making around the press release.

> Another small question, 
> Who does the translation of the non-English press kit? Do we have native
> speakers checking it before the official release? (I'd be happy to help
> with Russian if needed, and I also noticed a few glitches with Hebrew
> version)

Yes, there is a team[1], and typically within the teams there are teams,
so it gets a lot of eyes on it. Before committing, I'll also throw it
into Google translate just to spot check (I'm not going to modify the
content itself, but in case I have qusetions for the translators).

If you are interested to find out more about the team, please send me a
note.

Thanks!

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/


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Re: PostgreSQL 13 articles (German)

Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum-4
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On 06/10/2020 04:20, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
One more:
https://www.it-administrator.de/themen/server_client/332884.html


> Awesome, thanks for compiling!
>
> I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage
> from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2]
> Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would
> create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if
> we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website?
>
> It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release.

I think that's a good idea. Maybe also state that links will have a
rel="nofollow",
which should keep seo spam at bay ... And of course add the policy you
mentioned.

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                                Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum
German PostgreSQL User Group
European PostgreSQL User Group - Board of Directors
Volunteer Regional Contact, Germany - PostgreSQL Project



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Re: PostgreSQL 13 articles (German)

Nikolay Samokhvalov
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(Top-posting because until anyone complains and also because I find it much more convenient in Gmail)

In my opinion, this PostgresPro article (published at times of beta release) is awesome: https://habr.com/ru/company/postgrespro/blog/493106/. There is also an English version: https://habr.com/en/company/postgrespro/blog/499880/. It's very detailed and covers a lot of features (not as many as PDF from Noriyoshi Shinoda though), and provides good examples.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:31 AM Valeria Kaplan <[hidden email]> wrote:
I think that's a really good idea (compiling and linking to the press page [2]). Will definitely encourage people to spread the news.

Few things that we could discuss are:
  • Whether we will include marketing articles by companies that use these news for self promotion? (my opinion is that we should try and only list pieces that are neutral, at least as much as possible) 
  • What about opinion pieces (user stories etc.)? (I have mixed feelings about this one)
  • Do we also list syndications? (guess not)

If helpful, I searched and found a few pieces in Russian (there wasn't much):
there were a few syndications:
There was also this overview in Russian at the recent #RuPostgres session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSpW6Ero30&feature=emb_title (a Russian speaking YouTube channel dedicated to Postgres news, features, events etc.)
There was this blog post https://yandex.ru/turbo/dataenginer.ru/s/?pcgi=p%3D8121 (First experience with Postgres 13) 

Another small question, 
Who does the translation of the non-English press kit? Do we have native speakers checking it before the official release? (I'd be happy to help with Russian if needed, and I also noticed a few glitches with Hebrew version)


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:20 AM Jonathan S. Katz <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 10/5/20 7:14 PM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After a brief discussion with Jonathan he suggested posting here the
> list of articles about the PostgreSQL 13 release in German.
>
>   * https://www.admin-magazin.de/News/PostgreSQL-13-veroeffentlicht
>   * https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2020/09/25/postgresql-released-v13/
>   * https://www.it-daily.net/shortnews/25558-neues-release-postgresql-13
>   * https://www.robotron.de/unternehmen/aktuelles/blog/postgresql-13-verfuegbar
>   * https://blog.v-gar.de/2020/09/postgresql-13-erschienen/
>   * https://www.heise.de/news/Datenbank-PostgreSQL-13-optimiert-Indizes-und-Aufraeumarbeiten-4912302.html
>   * https://www.credativ.de/blog/postgresql/postgresql-13-erscheint-am-24092020
>   * https://www.linux-magazin.de/news/postgresql-13-mit-mehr-performance/
>   * https://www.edv-nachrichten.de/meldung/dbms_postgresql_13_erschienen
>
> That's what I spotted over the course of the last week.

Awesome, thanks for compiling!

I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage
from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2]
Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would
create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if
we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website?

It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release.

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit13/
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/